Connecting a second reciever to a Carryout

[daver]

I just received my Carryout dish and it works great with the Dish Network Eastern Arc satellites. What is the procedure for connecting a second reciever to the Carryout. I understand that the second receiver can not control the dish and can only work with the satellite that the dish is point at. However, do I need to train the second Dish Network receiver like the primary was during the initial setup? I have not tried the second receiver, but I would like to know if there are any special set up or intitialization to do.

[Bill Adams]

While this is not recommended, it will work with the restrictions you have mentioned.
The first thing you need to do is disconnect the primary receiver and connect your second receiver to this connection. You need to run through and complete power up, lock on, check switch routine on this receiver and ensure that you get the SW64. Finish out the routine to where you are watching TV. You can now return the original receiver to this location and run a new cable from the 2nd port on the Carryout to where the 2nd receiver will be located. You may still have issues no matter how hard you try but "in theory" you will have some success some of the time. If the antenna ever stops toggling you will want to unplug the second receiver, power off the Carryout and start from scratch with the main receiver before powering the 2nd receiver back on.

[Winegard Tech Help]

Bill nailed it again, make sure to configure both receivers off your primary coax cable and then move the secondary to wherever you'd like its own cable.

To find out which channels come from which satellite, you can consult James Long's Uplink Center or by pressing the info button two times with the channel selected on the guide.

Some people even keep favorites lists on each receiver grouping the channels by satellite. May take a while to accomplish but will simplify things in the long run.

[daver]

Thanks for the replies. I had a hunch that it was not as simple as connecting a cable. I wonder why Winegard does not explain exactly how to connect a second receiver

[Bill Adams]

The reason that it's not explained is because it is not recommended. While the 2 separate receivers can work, if customer wanted to install a single receiver with dual tuners (DVR, etc.) this will likely not work at all.

[daver]

As I understand the advise on this forum, I can use two receivers for the Carryout. I have a Dish 211 and 222k receiver. I would like to use the 222k as the primary and the 211 as the secondary. I would connect the Caryout normal output to the 222k sat 1 input leaving sat 2 disconnected and run the normal connection test so the 222 would see the eastern arc 77, 72 and 62 satellites on tunner 1. After completed those tests I would disconnect the 222 and connect the 211 and run the test on it so it would see the eastern arc satellites as well. Then I would connect the 222 to the sat 1 input and the 211 to the secondary sat while assuring the Carryout is pointed to the 72 satellite so I would see those channels on the 211. I think that would work or have I missed something.

[Bill Adams]

If (and I believe only if) you can set the 222 to be a single tuner option would this work. It might work better if you put the 211 on the primary connection to ensure the antenna would toggle as necessary and put the 222 on the aux connection and just hope for the best.

[daver]

Thanks, being a half crazed retired retired electronic engineer, I like to experiment. Its is too bad Dish doesn't make their source code open so we can see what is really happening, which leaves us to assume and experiment with things

[Winegard Tech Help]

As I understand the advise on this forum, I can use two receivers for the Carryout. I have a Dish 211 and 222k receiver. I would like to use the 222k as the primary and the 211 as the secondary. I would connect the Caryout normal output to the 222k sat 1 input leaving sat 2 disconnected and run the normal connection test so the 222 would see the eastern arc 77, 72 and 62 satellites on tunner 1. After completed those tests I would disconnect the 222 and connect the 211 and run the test on it so it would see the eastern arc satellites as well. Then I would connect the 222 to the sat 1 input and the 211 to the secondary sat while assuring the Carryout is pointed to the 72 satellite so I would see those channels on the 211. I think that would work or have I missed something.

This should work without setting the 222k in dual mode as far as I know, but some DISH dual tuners will change the primary tuner from 1 to 2 without any user input which will definitely cause problems.

In this case, as Bill said, the 211k would probably be work best as the primary but as long as you ensure the 222k is one Tuner Input 1 on the point dish screen you should be able to use the setup you've detailed.

You have the process correct as well.

[daver]

Thanks for the help. I understand why the 211 is recomended over the 222k but the 211 is smaller and would fit better in my bedroom area of my 5th wheel as a second receiver better than the 222k. I have used the 222k for 2years with my twin dish 500 legacy unit with a SW21 switch connected to Sat 1 input of the receiver without any problems-- other than acquiring 119 and 110 satelittes in Nova Scotia because of the low angles involved. With the seperator, it needs the newer dish pro. Instead of buying the dishpro stuff, I elected to get the Carryout and forgo the dual capability-- which would be nice using the diplexers to feed my bedroom area from the 2nd tunner and not requiring more cables. If there is anyway Winegard could see fit to design a automatic dish simular to the Carryout that would work with a dual tuner, it would be something I would like to have.