Is MP1 compatable with vip722k

[Renee]

We are full time rv'ers, have a Fleetwood Providence 2007. Trying to set up our mp1 for the first time and not having good luck..will call company today for help but thought I would ask first if it was compatible with the vip722k..I don't remember it saying anything on the box about a certain receiver.

[Bill Adams]

Since Dish uses 3 satellites to provide all of their programming you will never be able to receive all of the Dish programming with the MP1. You might be able to point it to the 129 satellite and watch only whatever happens to be there (most of the HD).
Since the idea of the 722 is to have 2 tuners available to watch 2 different channels on 2 different TV's both users are going to be restricted to watching only the programming coming from that one satellite.
The MP1 is generally recommended for use with the DirecTV SD only programming as all of this programming comes from only one satellite.
The only way to get full use from the 722 in an RV condition is to use the roof mounted Winegard SK-1000.
Even trying to using an automatic dome such as the Carryout or a roof mounted automatic antenna will cause similar failures due to the ability to only see one satellite at a time and the requirement that the receiver be able to make that antenna toggle.

[Winegard Tech Help]

Renee,

As Bill stated, Dish uses multiple satellites but the MP1 can be aimed at either 110, 119 or 129 and is compatible with the 722k.

To do so, you will want to clear out the installed switch in the 722k. To do this, when your receiver is booted, press menu, then 6-1-1 (system setup -> installation -> point dish) to get to the Point Dish screen. Highlight and select the check switch option on the right side of the screen and if there is any information or anything installed under switch on the installation summary screen, disconnect your cable(s) and select test. It will run through 38 steps. At the end of this process, a screen will show stating you've lost satellites, select save two times on that screen.

At this point, highlight and select done to get back to the point dish screen. You are now ready to aim the dish. Connect your cable(s) and make sure you are not using a DPP separator that separates one cable into two. We need to have either one or two direct coax runs from antenna to receiver. Configure the point dish screen for the satellite you want and select one of the following transponders based on the satellite you are wishing to use:

119 - trans 11
110 - trans 7
129 - trans 18

Find your satellite azimuth (compass heading) and elevation by inputting your zip code into www.DishPointer.com and selecting either 110W, 119W or 129W from the dropdown menu. Then aim your dish and hopefully a signal will appear on your screen.

If you wish, Winegard Technical service will walk you through this over the phone. To do this, contact 800-788-4417 and a technician will return your call as soon as possible.

[Renee]

Thank you for your responses..
I did everything that you have suggested and to no avail...even clearing out the 722 with undoing the cables etc. Now it tells me at the end of the process that a cable is not connected.

I called Winegard yesterday and the gentle man was very helpful and he walked me through the same process I had been doing for several hours. I continued to try for another hour and finally gave up.

As for being able to watch different channels at the same time is not an issue with us because we watch the same programs.

When we put in 129 it gave us no azimuth or elevation setting so we went with 119 per the gentle I spoke to yesterday at Winegard.

We are in a motor-home and we have 3 TV's. When we first got Dish they gave us a bigger satellite and we had no problem. I put out service on vacation mode and this is our first time to use the MP1. The satellite they gave us was to much to haul and that is why we got the MP1.

The satellite in the dome won't lock in to a satellite. I called and they said we needed some type of chip..and even if it would work we would still not always be able to use it due to undercover or trees.
If I had known of these issues we would have kept our original satellite or purchased the Winegard carryout that finds the satellite itself...

I am going to wait until we get to Arkansas on the 10th and see what I can do so I will probably call again for more help...Just disappointed that it is taking more than what I anticipated to get it to work.

Would it help if I took a picture of the wires connected to my receiver..although I don't see that anything there would not be hooked up correctly due to it working when we were connected to the original dish.

Thank you
Renee

[Winegard Tech Help]

Renee,

It will detect that there is no input hooked up because there are no cables connected. Just select OK or Yes on that screen.

The receiver will not give you individual coordinates for 129. If you change the dish system to 1000 it will give you a set of coordinates that would be usable for a Dish 1000 3-LNB system to aim in on all three satellites at once. That's why I recommended using DishPointer.com, as it will give you the coordinates for the individual satellite.

Is the satellite in the dome you said you need a chip for a Winegard unit?

In terms of taking pictures of wires to the receiver, it isn't necessary really. You want to have either one or two coax cables running from the LNB of the MP1 to the receiver. You can use one if you only want to use one tuner, or you can have two if you want to run two tuners. Remember to run these cables directly (not through a prewire or side receptacle on your coach) for the initial installation -- once on signal you can try to run it through a satellite port on your coach.

Aiming can be a learning experience but if you stay patient and work slow you should be able to acquire a signal.

[Renee]

Yes the satellite in the roof is a winegard.

I have run the cable from the MP1 directly to the in from outside and trying to see if we can get a signal.
I have tried 119 and 11 transponder and the 129 with the numbers that you have given me. I have moved the elevation up and own between 40 and 50. Although with the 129 satellite picked it doesn't give any numbers at all for azimuth or elevation.

I went do dishpointer.com and put in the street address of 18061 Copper st Denham Springs La and it gave me the settings of 54.6 and 180..that didn't work either.

I went ahead and clicked on test and the message below is what I get.

I keep getting a warning 530 one of the satellite inputs or switches is not connected properly. Normal
operation will be adversely affected.
We have just put in a call to a tech...
thank you

[Bill Adams]

The reality is that pointing an MP1 for the first time can be very frustrating is you don't have anyone to help. The parameters given by the receiver (or any other source) is a calculated number. No one ever stood in that spot and wrote those numbers down. That means that those numbers are likely not perfect but they are going to be close. Throw in the accuracy of the compass you are using and the things in the local environment that can throw off a compass and you have a lot of things that can make the expected location be different than the actual location. If you have an azimuth of 180 then the satellite certainly should be somewhere in the 170-190 degree range (or 160-200). Assuming that you have been able to set the MP1 in place where it is perfectly level then the elevation number should be within a couple of degree higher or lower. If you are not using a signal meter in-line with your MP1 then it is important that you move the antenna slowly as there is a delay between the time you get the antenna pointed correctly and the display shows on the signal meter. Time and patience is the only thing that will make pointing this antenna easier. It still won't solve the problem that you will not be able to get all of your programming but once you get it pointed correctly for the first time you will have a better idea of how to do it the next time.

[Renee]

Bill
I appreciate your response and I do understand what you are saying and agree that the first time is
definitely trying. Again we worked for several hours yesterday but still never hit anything at all.

We also had one of the signal meters and it never picked up any signal either.

I feel from your response, that I have said something that has offended you, if so, for that apologize. But
you must understand our frustration with working for a couple of days for several ours each day and
not being able to get anything at all.

I will wait until we get to Arkansas and try again.
Thank you
Renee

[Bill Adams]

I am not sure what was in my response that might have indicated that I was offended. I will review my post and try not to let that happen again. I am about the happiest guy there is and nothing you said has changed that. I really do just want to help. Please forgive whatever verbiage I used. It was unintentional.
I truly was trying to explain how all the information provided to you to point an antenna is an approximation from the service provider designed to help their professional installers get started. The RV industry created the products we use today and not DirecTV or Dish. Therefore, we have to take the limited information we have, hope that the tools we use are working and accurate and then roll that all into a way to take our services on the road.
Please stay in touch. If you prefer I not respond, one of the great Winegard techs will be most pleased to help.